that's a big -- well, i'm not going to quote joe biden, but that's a big deal. >> it tends to be from coastal places, whether it's silicon valley or corn gi melon, and they tend to flock to democratic leaning candidates and/or causes, so the question is in the amount of time that you have, which is not a lot of time, how do republicans attract those kinds of -- that kind of talent? >> it does require wrestling with some of the fundamental tenants of the party. you are looking at very superficial things. hang-outs on google. immigration reform was the -- was not a controversial issue within the republican party during the george w. bush years where you had vast -- they're not going to core issues about their view of government, of society, of the market, and i think that you see a great deal of desperation instead taking place. you look at what's happening in virginia and pennsylvania and michigan and the places where they're trying to change the rules in order to kind of hang on to some -- their presidential electoral hopes. >> alex, on this question of democracy, i was trying to thin